Looking for some educated theories on Velious's Black Pantherskin armor.

[Zithax]

Originally Posted by Visual

Wus armor was OP. glad it was removed

lol ok

[Messianic]

Black Pantherskin isn't that good anyhow. A few of the pieces are kind of neat (boots, pants maybe) and the appearance was nice, but AC is king for monks anyhow.

[Flash]

Originally Posted by Messianic

Black Pantherskin isn't that good anyhow. A few of the pieces are kind of neat (boots, pants maybe) and the appearance was nice, but AC is king for monks anyhow.

89AC and 32AGI isn't bad, not to mention the str, sta, dex, and HP from it. And it's low-weight.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Flash

89AC and 32AGI isn't bad, not to mention the str, sta, dex, and HP from it. And it's low-weight.

The question isn't what the set itself gives - it's what do other possible options have in comparison. I can make a set of all vanilla armor for less than 3k that has more AC than that (100 AC, to be precise). Yeah, the AGI gives some AC - but if you pour the same pp and time into just getting the BIS gear as opposed to black pantherskin, your overall set of armor is immensely better.

[Nirgon]

Spend your money on a haste item, monks are retarded in Velious with primal

[Flash]

Originally Posted by Nirgon

Spend your money on a haste item, monks are retarded in Velious with primal

What's primal?

Also, doesn't Velious introduce gem armor, where you collect an old no-drop armor piece and then turn it in with several different gems to get a nice class-specific armor piece?

Edit: Yeah, just checked. So the Grand Masters set would be way better for a monk than the Black Pantherskin set? And easier/cheaper to get?

[Arteker]

u can get a set of netted kelp armour from sirens grotto.

i dont remember stats but it have a decent ac and have nice str and sta and resists .

as monk ur worst enemy i guess are casters so if u got hps str and resists in armour: win

[Kevlar]

Originally Posted by Flash

What's primal?

Also, doesn't Velious introduce gem armor, where you collect an old no-drop armor piece and then turn it in with several different gems to get a nice class-specific armor piece?

Edit: Yeah, just checked. So the Grand Masters set would be way better for a monk than the Black Pantherskin set? And easier/cheaper to get?

You either have to get it in kael arena or temple of veeshan. With a lvl 60 cap those aren't groupable areas. It takes a raid force to get those drops. It isn't like kunark where you can afk exp in karnors and get your class armor.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Kevlar

You either have to get it in kael arena or temple of veeshan. With a lvl 60 cap those aren't groupable areas. It takes a raid force to get those drops. It isn't like kunark where you can afk exp in karnors and get your class armor.

wrong u can trigger plate cycle or just kill bank area with 1 grp.

or if any guild is cleaning pog u can ask for roots.

[Yukona]

Black Pantherskin will be at least 2k per piece made., Im sure. maybe more, for the reasons stated above. The estimate of 200 plat to produce a piece assumes that a) there wont be bidding wars for the raw comonents and b) that the item will be made successfully each time.

Im guessing, if someone is buying the pantherskins for 50 plat, someone else is going to offer 100. the price will rise to whatever the market will bear, just like it did for awhile with spiderling silk, oak bark, morning dew... all the tedious to get components. Add to that the fact that you will need a fairly high level toon to farm them, ie someone thats allready likely wealthy, and its likely that no one will bother unless its really worth thier time. the skins are likely to be very high demand due to tailors trying to skill up.

Then, consider that with a skill of 158 (wus trivial) a 252 triv item will likely fail, what, 7 out of 8 times? and you have say a base of 250 plat to ATTEMPT a piece, times 8 to SUCCEED at making. so, 2k. Then you have to figure thier will be markup, so that the tailor can continue his work. So.... 3k? 4k? Maybe no one will buy at that price, but thats what it will realistically cost to make. you might get a tailor to do it cheaper if you brought mats in bulk. Like say, 10 pantherskins and 10 yew leaves equals a piece.

Thats the sort of market that exsisted for this stuff back in the day on E Marr at least, where I was known to dabble in tailoring