Zimmerman / Martin Shooting

[HallMonitorSyndrome]

Originally Posted by Asher

Refresh my memory, what did Tray Martin do to break the law? Was it illegal for him to be walking down the street in a hoodie with some skittles?

I don't think you get to walk down the street harassing people and then say you felt threatened by some kid half your age so you had to kill him.

Asher

He assaulted another human being, violently, and without provocation.

I'd shoot him, too. It's not worth losing my life to find out if "hey maybe he won't kill me, and just stop at beating my skull into the pavement a bit"

No hesitation. You kill people trying to harm you, or you are leaving yourself open to being killed.

[SamwiseBanned]

for all we know the gun came into play immediately and the kid was fighting for his life. shady guy does shady things. if this was your kid, what would you want done?

[tops419]

Samwise, if the gun came into play immediately, please, try to draw a picture of how that could possibly happen and Zimmerman still sustain the injuries? If there were a lose gun that two people were fighting over, they would be focused on gaining control of the weapon and not actually inflicting injuries like the ones sustained by Zimmerman.

[HallMonitorSyndrome]

Most people arguing about this situation have never, and never will be, in a position where they have had to protect themselves(or loved ones) from harm.

It's like Obama telling us how we should react to economic downturn.

[SamwiseBanned]

makes sense but people dont think logically when fighting for their life. noone can be certain what happened, especially when the only one who knows is a shady character. what is certain is that this whole situation was 100% preventable and that martin wasnt doing anything wrong at the time. I am looking at this from the point of view of the parents. even if my kid was a punk ass thug wanna be, no reason for him to die. i dunno i have a son so maybe thats why i feel differently.

[SamwiseBanned]

Originally Posted by HallMonitorSyndrome

Most people arguing about this situation have never, and never will be, in a position where they have had to protect themselves(or loved ones) from harm.

It's like Obama telling us how we should react to economic downturn.

cept i have

[Lucky]

zimmerman could have easily died too as his skull was getting cracked like an egg

[LordFresh]

Originally Posted by SamwiseBanned

makes sense but people dont think logically when fighting for their life. noone can be certain what happened, especially when the only one who knows is a shady character. what is certain is that this whole situation was 100% preventable and that martin wasnt doing anything wrong at the time. I am looking at this from the point of view of the parents. even if my kid was a punk ass thug wanna be, no reason for him to die. i dunno i have a son so maybe thats why i feel differently.

There are many many mothers / fathers / brothers / sisters that have to bury their family member because they were doing dumb shit. Doesnt make it any less hard or anyone elses fault.

[Hitchens]

I think Naez beat up Zimmerman and shot Trayvon.

[Kraftwerk]

Stop mentioning the age/size thing, you sound like an idiot.

-Trayvon Martin 5'11" 160 lbs, 17 years old
-George Zimmerman 5'8" 185lbs, 28 years old

I'm sorry but height stands out more than weight, and they were only 10 years apart. Hell in most countries you're pretty much full adult at 17. Also his 911 call he says "This guy looks like he's up to no good...", guy, not kid or boy. That was while he was still in his car.

Also the operator never says not to chase him, this is the verbatim line:

"Are you following him?"

"Yea"

"OK, we don't need you to do that."

If you are taking that to be a direct order not to follow than you are smoking crack. It is not a clear statement of no, but pretty ambiguous and easily misunderstood. If the operator said definitively "No do not follow him" instead of being vague like a retard maybe the whole thing wouldn't of happened, who knows.